A Blog about the Chambersburg area of Trenton NJ. The Burg we all loved and miss. If you were from the Burg I hope many of the pictures and lists and comments under them from good folks bring back some nice memories. Villa Park, Franklin Park, South Trenton, and nearby Hamilton also mentioned. Use the search box atop the blog to find schools,churches,streets,stores,bars etc that you remember. Over 4000 posts and 3000 pics. Enjoy:)
This is officially known as Orange Street Park according to the City of Trenton Website. It was a park in my Burg day as it is now, never knew what it was called until today. Making this into a Park after the old boys club closed down seems like a good idea to me. Wow Trenton did something right :)
The original site of Roebling School that I attended from kindergarten 1/2 day until 4th grade when the school closed and students continued on to Harrison School. It took many, many years of negotiations with the City and private groups to get the Boys Club in the old building. Eventually the Boys Club closed and the site became a hang-out for drug dealers, prostitutes and other kinds of "low life". Yes, the asthetics have changed..looks pretty...but as they say, "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig".
Doesn't surprise me about the druggies still hanging out there. Trenton's leadership (now that's being nice to them) since the riots of 1968 (the last time Trenton was a commercial and residential hub) have devasted the good sections of Trenton. Holland was a laugh, Armenti was a politician and the current guy a big joke!
Barb, Mack and Sax: Checked out a site called Zillow.com, shows values at which houses are valued. I could not believe the houses on Home Ave. and Beatty St. are listed at $141,000 with all the crime and downhill conditions. Is this for real?
Joe Z...they are dreaming if they are listing them that high. My mother-in-law's house at 946 Beatty, with a double lot and 2 car garage just sold for $110,000. Her neighbor at 956 sold for $140,000 with a triple lot, 3 car garage, with one converted into an office, fully remodelled. I'm an appraiser and I don't know where they are getting those prices.
Barb: I don't know either how they set up their prices. I had cousins that lived on Beatty St. also, the Lukowicz's probably on the 700 block, right pass that day care center that use to be Helen's Tomatoe Pies.
C'mon guys....we all know that Beatty St was the upper-class section of South Trenton...the tradition probably continues....only top-tier drug dealers live there now....plus those multi-multi-family dwellings are in demand!!! :):):) Alright, yes, just kiddin'...but it is kind of sicking, isn't it?
Sax...unfortunately now it's upper class South American. When my mother-in-law passed, we couldn't find a buyer. If you get a bite on a Trenton house, you grab it, 'cause nobody has money and because they aren't legal, they can't get credit. So sad.
If they aren't legal they should not be there in the first place..that is one of the biggest problems. There is a process in place...it should be followed and enforced! Unfortunately, it is too, too late.
A friend sent me this email..Thought I'd share her thoughts on the present-day 'Burg.
"I took my oldest grandson around to Franklin Park and showed him Trenton High and where we were able to walk the streets at one time to see if the guys were around. Where we got Pizza at De Lorenzo's and ate Hot Dogs at the Casino on Anderson St. All of these neighborhoods are not worth the time of day now. The entire Burg is filthy. How Sad!! Just bring it back in the pictures and enjoy what we had. He did find it somewhat interesting, but when you are looking at dirty houses and dirty streets, it's not all that great. I did explain how great it was, I don't think it sunk in too well, because of the filth. I also told him how the ladies would get out and sweep the sidewalks. That I think blew him away. I told him most mother's stayed at home and took care of the house and were always there for the children. What a world we live in now."
We all probably didn't have much growing up, but what we did have was pride in country and in our neighborhood...always clean...always safe.
Sax...sometimes it's easier when you move away and didn't have to watch the slow deterioration. It's so hard to be there on a weekly basis, and watch what you loved so much, go so bad. I'm an appraiser and I have to go into houses that friends and family once owned and loved. It's difficult to cope with the filth, deterioration, garbage, kids milling around not in school. The old neighborhoods are dangerous, because none of these people own the houses, they are mostly rentals and section 8 housing, no pride of ownership. Thank God we have our collective memories.
Well, I guess that's why most of us moved out. I heard that a girl was killed in the house that I lived in (Chestnut Ave.) before we moved to Bayville, NJ. This house was owned by my family and my husband & I lived on the second and third floors. We got out at just the right time. The mayor of Trenton can thank his peeps for this.
BP SC...It started with Art Holland and continued with his bleeding heart wife. The '68 riots finished off town...crime and property values finished off the neighborhoods. It burns me when people say Trenton died, because we moved out. There was nothing left to stay for, everything was gone. I always say, if Trenton turned around over-night, I'd be back the next day.
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Former site of the old Boys Club. ot the Burg, but close enough.
This is officially known as
Orange Street Park according to
the City of Trenton Website.
It was a park in my Burg day as
it is now, never knew what it was called until today.
Making this into a Park after the old boys club closed down seems like a good idea to me. Wow
Trenton did something right :)
The original site of Roebling School that I attended from kindergarten 1/2 day until 4th grade when the school closed and students continued on to Harrison School. It took many, many years of negotiations with the City and private groups to get the Boys Club in the old building. Eventually the Boys Club closed and the site became a hang-out for drug dealers, prostitutes and other kinds of "low life". Yes, the asthetics have changed..looks pretty...but as they say, "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig".
Unfortunately, it's still a hangout for drug dealers. Can't have anything nice in Trenton anymore.
Mack look at MLS #4111411, that's the old El Rancho Bar (Beatty and Lalor), my father-in-law owned this for many years.
Doesn't surprise me about the druggies still hanging out there.
Trenton's leadership (now that's being nice to them) since the riots of 1968 (the last time Trenton was a commercial and residential hub) have devasted the good sections of Trenton. Holland was a laugh, Armenti was a politician and the current guy a big joke!
Barb, Mack and Sax: Checked out a site called Zillow.com, shows values at which houses are valued. I could not believe the houses on Home Ave. and Beatty St. are listed at $141,000 with all the crime and downhill conditions. Is this for real?
Joe Z...they are dreaming if they are listing them that high. My mother-in-law's house at 946 Beatty, with a double lot and 2 car garage just sold for $110,000. Her neighbor at 956 sold for $140,000 with a triple lot, 3 car garage, with one converted into an office, fully remodelled. I'm an appraiser and I don't know where they are getting those prices.
Barb: I don't know either how they set up their prices. I had cousins that lived on Beatty St. also, the Lukowicz's probably on the 700 block, right pass that day care center that use to be Helen's Tomatoe Pies.
C'mon guys....we all know that Beatty St was the upper-class section of South Trenton...the tradition probably continues....only top-tier drug dealers live there now....plus those multi-multi-family dwellings are in demand!!! :):):) Alright, yes, just kiddin'...but it is kind of sicking, isn't it?
Sax...unfortunately now it's upper class South American. When my mother-in-law passed, we couldn't find a buyer. If you get a bite on a Trenton house, you grab it, 'cause nobody has money and because they aren't legal, they can't get credit. So sad.
If they aren't legal they should not be there in the first place..that is one of the biggest problems.
There is a process in place...it should be followed and enforced!
Unfortunately, it is too, too late.
A friend sent me this email..Thought I'd share her thoughts on the present-day 'Burg.
"I took my oldest grandson around to Franklin Park and showed him Trenton High and where we were able to walk the streets at one time to see if the guys were around. Where we got Pizza at De Lorenzo's and ate Hot Dogs at the Casino on Anderson St. All of these neighborhoods are not worth the time of day now. The entire Burg is filthy. How Sad!! Just bring it back in the pictures and enjoy what we had. He did find it somewhat interesting, but when you are looking at dirty houses and dirty streets, it's not all that great. I did explain how great it was, I don't think it sunk in too well, because of the filth. I also told him how the ladies would get out and sweep the sidewalks. That I think blew him away. I told him most mother's stayed at home and took care of the house and were always there for the children. What a world we live in now."
We all probably didn't have much growing up, but what we did have was pride in country and in our neighborhood...always clean...always safe.
Sax...sometimes it's easier when you move away and didn't have to watch the slow deterioration. It's so hard to be there on a weekly basis, and watch what you loved so much, go so bad. I'm an appraiser and I have to go into houses that friends and family once owned and loved. It's difficult to cope with the filth, deterioration, garbage, kids milling around not in school. The old neighborhoods are dangerous, because none of these people own the houses, they are mostly rentals and section 8 housing, no pride of ownership. Thank God we have our collective memories.
Barb and Sax: All you can say is AMEN and thanks for the memories.
Well, I guess that's why most of us moved out. I heard that a girl was killed in the house that I lived in (Chestnut Ave.) before we moved to Bayville, NJ. This house was owned by my family and my husband & I lived on the second and third floors. We got out at just the right time. The mayor of Trenton can thank his peeps for this.
BP SC
BP SC...It started with Art Holland and continued with his bleeding heart wife. The '68 riots finished off town...crime and property values finished off the neighborhoods. It burns me when people say Trenton died, because we moved out. There was nothing left to stay for, everything was gone. I always say, if Trenton turned around over-night, I'd be back the next day.
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